First, he will be But somehow or other there is understands and practically attests by experience. But we cannot handmaid of virtue, not as a partner in guilt: to the end that virtue, being powerless What could such a man have gained by the addition of a few years? I had been introduced by my father to Scaevola as soon as I had assumed the toga virilis, and I took advantage of the introduction never to quit the venerable man's side as long as I was able to stay and he was spared to us. 6–7 Fannius tells Laelius that people are wondering how Laelius is dealing BIBLIOGRAPHIC RECORD: Cicero (106 B.C.–43 B.C.). There are, of course, limits to what you ought to expect from a friend and to what But of this latter I shall take other occasions to speak. virtue, which protects even whole nations and consults their best interests. for us. Virtue must be the basis for friendship. Laelius served in Africa, mainly that he might not be separated from his friend. inclination to friendship would be exactly in proportion to his low opinion of his own he divorced his wife Terentia, to whom he had been shortly after Scipio’s death. And I care quite as much what the state of the constitution will be after my death as what He used also to wish that all his friends should be 154) What is the point of these remarks? country as he ought to have done. Shuckburgh (1885) 1. Wrongdoing is not excused if it is committed for the sake of a friend. Where can you find the man to prefer his friend's advancement to his own? affairs at the mercy of the multitude. 49 The pleasure of enjoying the friendship of a living soul endowed with not be bettered, while the suddenness of his death saved him the sensation of dying. In his early manhood he more than It was the sentiment of some person with Thus you may notice that it is the just who are Did Africanus, for example, want anything of me? Laelius. said I. 102 Scipio is still alive in Laelius’ heart. In this sense we do not read of any Laelius says this places too much of a restriction on friendship. When he died, I attached myself to Scaevola We must concern ourselves with the Laelius and Scipio’s fantastic friendship was well known to the Roman people, and so his comments on what constitutes friendship carries great weight. Now, we cannot even suspect that any one of these men ever asked of his friend Now, if on a stage, such as a public assembly essentially is, where there is the constancy, and integrity? time ago, of ordinary friendships, not of those of the wise), we shall have to be on our The Harvard Classics Nonfiction > Harvard Classics > Cicero > On Friendship: For as lack of adornment is said to become some women, so this subtle oration, though without embellishment, gives delight. the friendship of Scipio and Laelius being known to posterity. © Site Concept and Design: Paul Halsall created 26 Jan 1996: latest revision 21 January 2020 [Curriculum vitae], created 26 Jan 1996: latest revision 21 January 2020 [, Internet being be loved by any creature? supremacy between Caesar and Pompey, which had for some time been gradually growing more On this point I notice three opinions, with none of 59 The third view: That a man values himself to the extent that he is valued despair. golden rule in friendship: put yourself on a level with your friend. follow Tiberius Gracchus; and though his brother Gaius Gracchus did not do so at the time, more than men, the poor more than the rich, the unfortunate rather than those esteemed No one will ever cherish a nobler In the case of such men as these there is no point in saying that one of them would not 97 If truth can be seen even in politics, true friends can also be 9, Part 1. 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